Born ‎12-8-1833 Zutphen, Netherland, died ‎16-8-1886‎, 52 or 53 years. Son of Meijer Manus Kinsbergen and Mietje Meijer van Heeks‏

Born ‎25-3-1834 den Helder, Netherland, died ‎9- Aug 1926 Amsterdam, Netherland‎, 91 or 92 years. Daughter of Jacob Judels/ Abba and Elsje de Wilde‏