Born ‎± 1843 Amersfoort, Netherland, died ‎15-12-1890 Amsterdam, Netherland‎, approximately 47 years. Daughter of Benjamin Joseph van Gelder and Meintje Lemans van der Douwer‏

Born ‎29-11-1837 Amsterdam, Netherland, died ‎21-5-1923 Amsterdam, Netherland‎, 85 or 86 years. Occupation: Buyer, ‎1st marriage to: Sophia van Gelder - van den Douwer, ‎2nd marriage to: Sabina Manasses - Copman. Son of Hijman Jacob van Praag - Purmer and Sara Barend Pijl - Polak‏