Born ‎1- Jun 1911 Rotterdam, Netherland, died ‎11-4-1972 Haarlem, Netherland‎, 60 or 61 years. Son of Willem Meininger/ Vi and Elsje Judels/ Slie‏

Born ‎1- Jan 1912 Rotterdam, Netherland, died ‎19-9-1999 Haarlem, Netherland‎, 86 or 87 years