Born ‎1890 Hilversum, died ‎before 1975 The Hague, Netherland‎, at most 85 years. Occupation: President of Nat.teachers association. Son of Josef Bartels and Hanna Frankfort‏

Born ‎1896, died ‎20-5-1975‎, 78 or 79 years. Daughter of Philip Troulder - van der Tulp and Betje Aronson - Kamerling‏