Born ‎1-11-1870 Amsterdam, Netherland, died ‎5- feb 1943 Auschwitz-Katowice, Poland‎, 72 or 73 years

Born ‎27-6-1880 Doetinchem, Netherland, died ‎5- feb 1943 Auschwitz-Katowice, Poland‎, 62 or 63 years